It is a control issue. In addition, the many that have nothing to do after FS who show up and it becomes a social event. The 400 pounders show-up for a free meal and there is an infestation of single females between the ages of 18-100 that show-up and help in some capacity as the camouflage for manhunting. Stay Clear!
Conan The Barbarian
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Photo ID Badges for Quick Builds
by metaspy inhey guys, sorry i haven't been on here much lately.. i just thought i would drop by and let you know of something i received.. from when i was 12 until i was 25, i worked on quick builds.. i started out just helping out wherever they would put me - then joined an actual crew: attendants.
i used to flag for forklifts.
then i asked if i could learn how to be an electrician because the flagging was about as boring as watching grass grow.. i only worked on electric crew 1 year, back in 2006.. i just got an email from my attendant crew overseer saying that i need to submit a photo for my id badge so that i can go to quickbuilds.
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CRAZINESS!!! I'M BEING 'MARKED' FOR GOING TO COLLEGE!!!
by MsGrowingGirl20 inohmygosh!!!
one of my friends who is a ms told me today that the elders have 'marked' me because i'm a reg.pioneer and i've decided to go to college next semester???!
he said he can't tell me anymore but to be careful---what the hell does 'mark' mean?
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Conan The Barbarian
The Elders will make an evaluation of you per the recent March 2012 letter. This will consist of two of them talking to you and asking in a conversational way, what is your motivation for wanting to go to College. Your reply will be critical. If they determine that you are going to college not to pursue sacred service, but for personal enrichment and/or the pursuit of riches, you will most likely be removed as a Pioneer. The marking talk will be given during one service mneeting as mentioned by others here in the forum. The purpose of the marking talk is two-fold. One is to indicate that you have made a poor personal choice, which is the predecessor to removal; and second, The old women in the congregation will be happy. This keeps them from bad-mouthing the body of elders the next time the circuit overseer comes around. The body does not want to explain to the CO during the Friday night interrogation during his visit, why they didn't act when it became common knowlege that a Pioneer was going to go to College. Its call self preservation. Take care an keep us posted!
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Higher Education Defined
by lastchance inin a new letter to all b.o.e., higher education has been defined as any education that leads to a bachelor's degree, or to postgraduate studies for careers in medicine, law, engineering and so forth.
the letter is to be used to determine if an elder, ministerial servant or pioneer still qualify if they or someone in there family, that they care for, is pursuing higher education.. so getting your associates must be fine then?.
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Conan The Barbarian
They have historically been against higher education. Going back to the 1960's if you graduated high school and went on to college they wouldn't allow you to "handle the utensils". You were viewed as "inmature", "not spiritual" and potentially a "bad associate", "worldly" and the name calling goes on. However, if you do graduate and have an education in a profession such as Architecture, Engineering, Law, etc; now they want you to volunteer your services to them for free. Sound good to you? They will whip you for going to school to learn something to advance your life as a human, but after you do, they want the benefits of that education for free!
Where is this place? Oh, quick, sign me up!
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Memorial Attendance Need an Advice Please
by Yan Bibiyan inquick background info i am an ubm, studied somewhat, never baptized.
mrs. bibyan is a successful fader her last kh attendance was the special talk after last years memorial.
no grief from the local congo for missing; the elderette she was friends with would call or stop by once in a while, but no harassment.. the other day, mrs. tells me out of the blue she wants to go to the memorial.
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Conan The Barbarian
I would go to the Memorial and deal with things "heads-up". The meeting is quick. It is an in and out affair, because there is probably a congregation either before yours, or after. Try to go to an early one in a neighboring congregation if you can. You may go unnoticed. The Elders are on orders to leave people alone who want to be left alone, but to just be nice to them. Expect Love Bombing from the women. If your wife hasn't done anything that may be judicial, she will probably be left alone.
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Questions for former elders on Do Not Call
by Kristina1972 inwhat is the procedure for requesting to be on the do not call list.
what happens when someone requests to be on the do not call list?.
does a letter need to be sent each year?.
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Conan The Barbarian
Q: What is the procedure for requesting to be on the Do Not Call list
A: Write a letter to the local congregation. Send it Certified mail.
Q: What happens when someone requests to be on the Do Not Call list?
A: Nothing. They just list it on the territory card.
Q: Does a letter need to be sent each year?
A: Yes. Send it each year, and make it certified mail. If you don't they will come to your house "to verify whether you still want someone not to call".
Q:Is the information shared with elders at neighboring congregations?
A: No. It stays only in the Local Congregation and put in the territory card. They may contact another congregation if they had reason to do so.
Q: How do the elders view such requests?
A: How do you think? It's really no big deal. They will just put the note in the territory card and leave it at that unless you give them a reason to think/do something. They still have to honor your request.
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How to Record a Judicial Meeting
by 00DAD inintroduction: this subject came up on another thread and seemed important enough to justify its own thread:.
judicial hearing procedure, chapter 7. recording devices.
"recording devices should not be allowed.
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Conan The Barbarian
Hey, Ziddina; The way you get a Lawyer into a JC Meeting is to just bring him/her with you. The Elders will object. You say, okay, we will leave. Ask what the charges are. They have to tell you. If you are innocent, say so and then get up and leave with the Lawyer. Let it fly from there.
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Memorial Invitation official first day today
by OneDayillBeFree inwell it's that time of year again and the invitations to another pointless memorial aka reject jesus party is now in full swing.
even though it's only the first day i'm already more than sick of it!
this is the first year i am fully mentally awake for the memorial season, and honestly i'm so sick of it all!
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Conan The Barbarian
If you want out, what keeps you in?
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Wisdom From a Former Elder
by Conan The Barbarian inthere is a brother in our congregation who moved in a few years ago.
i know he had handled many difficult matters, as others had told me this.
when he moved in, i was told that he came with a sterling recommendation, but declined to serve.
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Conan The Barbarian
Almost sounds like he was in the ARMY too...
Maybe he is among us here?
He may have been in the Army, i don't know. I heard that he can speak Vietnamese. He is a pretty old man. He ia approaching retirement if not retired already.
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Wisdom From a Former Elder
by Conan The Barbarian inthere is a brother in our congregation who moved in a few years ago.
i know he had handled many difficult matters, as others had told me this.
when he moved in, i was told that he came with a sterling recommendation, but declined to serve.
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Conan The Barbarian
There is a Brother in our congregation who moved in a few years ago. In a former congregation not too far away he had served as an Elder for many, many years and was relatively well known. I know he had handled many difficult matters, as others had told me this. When he moved in, I was told that he came with a sterling recommendation, but declined to serve. He kind of keeps to himself. He speaks to people and is friendly enough if you speak to him, but he does not approach or engage anyone. He is helpful to thoes that he sees are in material need. His wife is very nice. She told the coordinating Elder in our congregation that previously, her husband serving as an Elder "almost destroyed him". I have heard her say this before. One Sunday after the meeting I was standing in the back of the Hall. One of the Elders approached this Brother who was also back there and asked him why he wasn't in the TMS. The Brother replied that when he and his wife moved in several years ago, he had told the TMS overseer that he would be in the school. However, the Brother was never assigned a talk (this Brother is in the truth and served for decades of time. Regressing to 5 minute talks won't do him much good I think) he thought that the Brother had forgotten. The Elder said, "well, let's go talk to the Brother who does the school, discuss this and get you an assignment". The Brother replied; "Well, since the Brother has forgotten, let's just leave it that way". The Elder asked why. The Brother said; "I am in the truth over 40 years. There are two things I have learned in that period of time. The first is not to volunteer twice, and the second is don't remind an Elder of anything". The Elder said nothing. He just politely smiled and walked away.
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I have a problem any suggestions would be appreciated
by nugget inthis year will be my parents 50th wedding anniversary.
my mum is a jw my father is not.
my husband and i hade been df'd and i have 3 sisters.
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Conan The Barbarian
I suggest that your Father call the family to be together, and state the date, time and place. He is the "head" of his household and is asking his family to attend because he has "Family business" to conduct. You should all get together, have your party for your Parents and at the very end of the Party, your Father makes the announcement that is "Family business". That could be almost anything that he wishes. I would suggest that he identify who the Attorney is that your Parents used to draw up their will or something like that. Just my $0.02.